Nat Friedman was the CEO of Github from 2018 to 2021. Before that, he started and sold two companies - Ximian and Xamarin. He is also the founder of AI Grant and California YIMBY. And most recently, he has created and funded the Vesuvius Challenge - a million dollar prize for reading an unopened Herculaneum scroll for the very first time. If we can uncover these scrolls, we may be able to recover lost gospels, forgotten epics, and missing works of Aristotle. We also discuss the future of open source and AI, running Github and building Copilot, and why EMH is a lie. Vesuvius Challenge: https://scrollprize.org/ Nat's Wisdom: https://nat.org/ Nat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/natfriedman Transcript: https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/p/nat-friedman Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3TCHFcY Spotify: https://spoti.fi/42rce9v (0:00:00) - Vesuvius Challenge (0:30:00) - Finding points of leverage (0:37:39) - Open Source in AI (0:40:32) - Github Acquisition (0:50:18) - Copilot origin Story (1:11:47) - Nat.org (1:32:56) - Questions from Twitter