Vox interviewed Bill Gates in 2015 about his fears of a global pandemic. Now that we’re living in that reality, what does he think comes next? Watch our 2015 interview with Bill Gates here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AEMKudv5p0 This interview was conducted on April 25, 2020. You can listen to the rest of the interview on the Ezra Klein Show, available wherever you listen to podcasts, or read it here: https://bit.ly/2TCZx9O For more information on The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation’s efforts to fight coronavirus: https://bit.ly/3elJyog For more of our sources: The latest data on the pandemic around the world: https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus WHO data on SARS’ spread: https://www.who.int/csr/sars/country/2003_07_11/en/ WHO MERS Case count: https://www.who.int/csr/don/07-july-2015-mers-korea/en/ For much more on the effectiveness on the USA’s efforts against HIV/AIDS in Africa, also known as PEPFAR, Dylan Matthews has written about it here: https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2018/12/12/18136716/pepfar-hiv-aids-trump-congress The specific research on PEPFAR’s effectiveness shown on screen is: https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2012/05/740000-lives-saved-study-documents-benefits-of-aids-relief-program.html Archival footage of the United Nations from: https://archive.org/details/4077_United_Nations_and_World_Disputes And from the signing of the Bretton Woods agreement, ratifying the World Bank and IMF, via Getty Images. For more about about the Bretton Woods story: https://www.vox.com/2014/8/24/6057119/harry-dexter-white-ben-steil Subscribe to our channel! http://goo.gl/0bsAjO Vox.com is a news website that helps you cut through the noise and understand what's really driving the events in the headlines. Check out http://www.vox.com/ Check out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/IZONyE Or our podcasts: https://www.vox.com/podcasts Follow Vox on Twitter: http://goo.gl/XFrZ5H Or on Facebook: http://goo.gl/U2g06o