Lawrence sits down for a one-to-one chat with former England captain, Martin Johnson, as they mark the 20th anniversary of lifting the Webb Ellis Cup in Australia. Taking the chance to reminisce, Lol and Johnno recall the why the game that made them most nervous was actually in the pool stages of the tournament, how they convinced Sir Clive Woodward to change the training programme mid-way through the campaign and what winning the World Cup has meant to them on a personal level. And as former Head Coach of England, Johnno also shares his views on what the current team need to do to progress their achievements at the RWC2023, as the pair also examine whether their own historic win should have left a better legacy for the game. Plus, there are stories about Lawrence and Johnno’s first time on tour as room mates, life in the England camp in 2003 and their most treasured memories from their rugby careers. Subscribe to the Evening Standard: https://bit.ly/Subscribe-to-Evening-Standard for latest breaking news from the UK, US and around the world, plus podcasts and features. Evening Standard on socials: Check out our full video catalog: null Videos, daily editorial and more: https://www.standard.co.uk/ Like us on Facebook: https://www.fb.com/eveningstandard Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/eveningstandard and Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/evening.standard