After one mans quest to improve a bow build all I got was this USELESS DATA. Time for a refresher course on how counters work in Dark Souls 3! TLDW - I wanna improve the bow build, so let's try out the LEO RING, after all bows deal thrust damage. - It improves counters, but do Greatbows still count? - More so, if I push someone with a shield does that count as a counter state for the Leo ring, so I can poke with my offhand rapier? - So it turns out only thrust attacks can "counter". - Other bonus damage is "supercounters", that's that loud THUNK noise we hear in combat. - Normally in counters you lose thrust defense, but not in supercounters/instability frames. - Most moves have a counter state, even kicking and such. - But not parrying! Or any part of greatbow attacks... I don't know why... - Bow testing done! Yup, it can deal Leo Ring counters just like in Dark Souls 1, just gotta make sure. - Jump attacks are a counter state AND an instability state. Does this mean I can do a LEO COUNTER SUPER COUNTER? - Maybe? I dunno, please free me from the counter attack hell - Oh god don't get me started on roll catching and such. Why gods?! WHRRRYYYYYYYYYYYY - Overall I give counter attacks COUNTER / ATTACKS. So overall it is pretty different to Dark Souls 1 and 2. Nice we can see the counter state in the menu, annoying we can't see the supercounter/instability state in the menu. I'm sure I might of got a lot wrong here, but I got my BOW data it''s all good ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) -MUSIC CREATIVELY COUNTERED- Casa Bossa Nova & Airport Lounge from incompetech.com