Developers are facing many challenges when developing apps and managing complex infrastructure. In this episode of TFiR Let’s Talk, Swapnil Bhartiya sits down with Nati Shalom, Founder and CTO of Cloudify, to discuss the key challenges developers face today. Shalom goes into detail about the complexity DevOps and engineers are grappling with and the concept of IDP to help obstruct the complexity of Kubernetes. Shalom shares details of their latest release, Cloudify 6.4 and what they are working towards in the future. #kubernetes